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Dwayne Fields and Caroline Pantling

What's Your Map? Live at the British Library

What's Your Map? Live at the British Library with Dwayne Fields and Caroline Pantling

Available soon on all major podcast platforms. Stay tuned for this live episode and a recording of the conversation filmed at the British Library on Saturday 25 October.

In this extra special live episode at the British Library, Jerry will be speaking to explorer and the UK's Chief Scout Dwayne Fields, who will be accompanied by Head of the Scout Heritage Collection, Caroline Pantling.

They will shine a spotlight on the innovative, hand-drawn maps of the Scout movement founder Lieutenant-General Robert Baden-Powell (1857-1941), and talk about the importance of imagination and adventure!

The maps they will be discussing in the episode are illustrations from Baden-Powell's 1915 book "My Adventures as a Spy". The book recounts Baden-Powell's own experiences in the military and his career in espionage, and feature his charming hand-drawn maps hidden in natural history sketches.

An excerpt from Baden-Powell's book introducing the maps reads: "... The exceedingly stupid Englishmen who wandered about foreign countries sketching cathedrals, or catching butterflies, or fishing for trout, were merely laughed at as harmless lunatics. These have even invited officials to look at their sketch-books, which, had they had any suspicion or any eyes in their heads, would have revealed plans and armaments of their own fortresses interpolated among the veins of the botanist's drawings of leaves or on the butterflies' wings of the entomologist.

Some examples of secret sketches of fortresses which have been used with success are shown on the following [pages]:"

Public domain, via Project Gutenberg. Original image vectorised and colour inverted, Oct2025.

"This sketch of a butterfly contains the outline of a fortress, and marks both the position and power of the guns. The marks on the wings between the lines mean nothing, but those on the lines show the nature and size of the guns, according to the keys below."

Key to the icons, from top:

Fortress guns

Field guns

Machine guns

"The position of each gun is at the place inside the outline of the fort on the butterfly where the line marked with the spot ends. The head of the butterfly points towards the north."

Public domain, via Project Gutenberg. Original image vectorised and colour inverted, Oct2025.

"A smart piece of spy-work. Veins on an ivy leaf show the outline of the fort as seen looking west. (Point of the leaf indicates north)."

Key to the icons, from top:

Shows where big guns are mounted if a vein points to them

Shows 'dead ground', where there is shelter from [gun]fire

Shows machine guns

About Dwayne Fields
Portrait of Dwayne, an athletic black gentleman with a beard and a shaved head wearing a long-sleeve blue top. He stands outside in green space with houses in the background

©Michael Wharley

Dwayne is an explorer, presenter and the United Kingdom's Chief Scout. He is an advocate for encouraging people to get outdoors and explore the world around them – with a particular focus on encouraging young people growing up in inner cities to get out and experience nature and a life with which they have not previously been engaged.

Born in Jamaica, Dwayne grew up in the UK from the age of 6. He has been the victim of both knife and gun crime and as a result of his experiences of the effects of gangs and crime, he decided to change his life. In 2010, Dwayne was the first black Briton to walk over 400 miles to reach the Magnetic North Pole.

Dwayne is a Fellow of the Royal Geographical Society. In 2018, he was presented with its ‘Geographical Award’ for empowering young people to explore the world.

At the end of 2019 Dwayne and his expedition partner Phoebe Smith, travelled the length of mainland Britain as part of their mission to engage young people to realise there are epic adventures on their own doorstep, to highlight environmental issues close to home, and to turn the spotlight on wildlife conservation. Their inaugural trip taking a group of under-privileged young people to Antarctica was completed in 2022 through their #WeTwo Foundation, and their next trip is to the Galapagos Islands in late 2024.

For his latest television series, Dwayne and Ben Fogle have undertaken an extraordinary journey stepping back in time, to wear the clothes, eat the food and using the same kit as their Edwardian heroes, Scott, Shackleton, and Amundsen. Their adventures were broadcast in the Channel 5 series “Endurance: Race to the Pole”.

Dwayne is also one of the explorers guiding two-time Academy Award® nominee Will Smith on “Welcome to Earth”, a Disney+ original series from National Geographic. This is an extraordinary, once-in-a-lifetime adventure around the world to explore Earth’s greatest wonders and reveal its most hidden secrets.

Find out more about Dwayne and his inspiring projects here.

About Caroline Pantling
Portrait of Caroline, a smiling white woman with mid-length brown hair. She wears a white top and stands against a plain wooden background.

Courtesy of Caroline Pantling (EFHT)

Joining Dwayne to discuss the history of the UK Scouting Association, and their Heritage Collection is Caroline Pantling, Head of Heritage Services.

Caroline leads a brilliant team who look after the collection which tells the story of the foundation and development of the Scout Movement in the UK. You can find out more about the Scout Heritage Collection here.

She studied Educational Studies BA Hons at the University of York followed by an MA in Heritage Education and Interpretation at Newcastle University. Her career has seen her work for numerous heritage organisations including the National Trust, the National Army Museum and Norfolk, Sheffield and West Berkshire Museums.

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